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Sunday, November 01, 2009

Elizabeth Courtenay (born c. 1656) v. John Clobery

Submitted on on Monday, October 26, 2009 at 22:52:48

fname: Daniel
lname: Benest
address1: Flat 6, 3 St Saviour's Crescent
address2: St Saviour
city: JERSEY
state: Channel Islands
country: GB
zip: JE2 7XN

e-mail: danielbenest@hotmail.com

ancestor: Elizabeth Courtenay (born c1656) v. John Clobery

comments: Hello

I'm researching my family history and I thought the Courtenay Society might provide me with some assistance to overcome an obstacle I've met.
My 8 x great grandparents were John Clobery b. circa 1650 (of Bradstone, Devon) and Elizabeth COURTENAY 1656 - 1699 (daughter of Sir William Courtenay, 1st Bt., of Powderham Castle).

Did this John Clobery marry twice, 1st Elizabeth Courtenay, 2nd Anne Cranmer?

Who was John Clobery's father?

Is this John Clobery connected to / or the same John Clobery who assisted General Monck in restoring Charles II to the throne?

I believe the Clobery family was a very established family in Bradstone, Devon for 100s of years and with the link to the Courtenays by the above union, any additional information by Courtenay Society would be very much appreciated.

Are there any Courtenay Society members that have the same individuals in their tree?

Regards, Daniel Benest (from Jersey, Channel Islands)

Monday, October 26, 2009

Elizabeth Courtenay (born c1656) v. John Clobery

submitted on Monday, October 26, 2009 at 22:52:48
fname: Daniel
lname: Benest
address1: Flat 6, 3 St Saviour's Crescent
address2: St Saviour
city: JERSEY
state: Channel Islands
country: GB
zip: JE2 7XN
e_mail: danielbenest@hotmail.com ancestor:

Elizabeth Courtenay (born c1656) v. John Clobery

comments: Hello I'm researching my family history and I thought the Courtenay Society might provide me with some assistance to overcome an obstacle I've met. My 8 x great grandparents were John Clobery b. circa 1650 (of Bradstone, Devon) and Elizabeth COURTENAY 1656 - 1699 (daughter of Sir William Courtenay, 1st Bt., of Powderham Castle). Did this John Clobery marry twice, 1st Elizabeth Courtenay, 2nd Anne Cranmer? Who was John Clobery's father? Is this John Clobery connected to / or the same John Clobery who assisted General Monck in restoring Charles II to the throne? I believe the Clobery family was a very established family in Bradstone, Devon for 100s of years and with the link to the Courtenays by the above union, any additional information by Courtenay Society would be very much appreciated. Are there any Courtenay Society members that have the same individuals in their tree?

Regards, Daniel Benest (from Jersey, Channel Islands)

Friday, September 18, 2009

Thomas Courtney Sr., b. circa 1728 Ireland, d. circa 1811 in U.S.A.

Submitted on Saturday, September 12, 2009 at 21:23:41
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llsmith4444@netzero.net

ancestor: Thomas Courtney Sr.

comments: Thomas Courtney Sr. was born about 1728 in Ireland and died in the US about 1811. He married three times #1 "Daughter" Dawson who had a child, Robert, born, 1751 "near Castle Dawson". They had been married in London, England. Thomas married #2 Jane Anderson in Ireland in 1757. He married #3 Isabella Thompson in 1789. She was born in Virginia. Their son, Thomas Jr. is my ancestor. I am looking for any information as to Thomas Sr's parents or family members. Thomas Jr. married Mary Polly Cravens and had at least one child, John D who was born in Mongongalia County West Virginia. He married Catharine Rodes and married again to Eliza Ann Boyd. Among their children was Mary Elizabeth Courtney who married Samuel Horton Anderson. They were my great grandparents. I can fill in some gaps if any relatives are interested. thanks, Lynda

Thursday, September 10, 2009

Elizabeth Courtenay b. c. 1560-80

Submitted on Saturday, August 29, 2009 at 17:45:40
fname: Ashley
lname: Shank
ashleychanel@lycos.com

ancestor: Elizabeth Courtenay b. c. 1560-80

comments: I am looking for information regarding the parents and siblings of Elizabeth Courtenay m. Humphrey Audley. They had at least one daughter, Philipa who was born in 1596. Her descendants married into other families of the nobility like the talbots (shrewsbury) and Hadleys. Any information about these individuals would be greatly appreciated.

Eleanor COURTENAY who married James ANDERSON

Submitted on Sunday, August 30, 2009 at 08:17:33
fname: Wendy
lname: Bloomfield
wgb-news@iinet.net.au

ancestor: Eleanor COURTENAY who married James ANDERSON

comments: Eleanor COURTENAY was the wife of James ANDERSON. Their daughter Jane/Janet ANDERSON married William McEWEN/McKEOWN at Sixmilecross, Tyrone, Ireland in 1857. By 1861 William and Jane McEwen were living in Ayrshire, Scotland, where they had 7 children. Their 3rd child, James, was born and baptised at Sixmilecross in 1866.

Jane McEwen nee Anderson died in Ayrshire, Scotland in 1899, and her parents are listed on her death certificate as James Anderson and Eleanor Courtenay. Her death was registered by her husband, William McEwen, and that both her parents were both deceased at the time of her death.

Does anyone know anything about Eleanor Courtenay?
Many Thanks
Wendy

Wednesday, September 09, 2009

Humphrey Courtney and Dennis Courtney

Submitted on Wednesday, August 26, 2009 at 15:10:54
fname: Mark
lname: Courtney
city: Wilmington
state: NC
country: USA
zip: 28411

mark.courtney28411@gmail.com

ancestor: Humphrey Courtney and Dennis Courtney

comments: I am seeking more information on Humphrey Courtney born abt. 1828 in Glenflesk, County Kerry Ireland, DOD 1902 in New York, his wife is Johanna Bradley DOB 1835 Ireland and DOD 1912 in New York. Also looking for information on his father Dennis Courtney born abt 1793 in Ireland and his father Humphrey Courtney born in Ireland. Any help is appreciated.
Thanks,
Mark Courtney

Courtney/Courtenay of Ilfracombe Devon England

Submitted on Tuesday, August 25, 2009 at 01:19:27

fname: Jason
lname: Courtney
drjasoncourtney@hotmail.com

ancestor: Courtney/Courtenay of Ilfracombe Devon England

comments: Hello
I am wondering if anybody has any information about the Courtney/Courtenay family line in Ilfracombe Devon.
In a nutshell it goes back from:
Thomas William Rice Courtney (b1879)
Thomas Henry Cotton Courtney (b1855)
William Rice Courtney (b1815)
James Courtney (b1778)
William Courtney (b1728/9)
John Courtney (b1681)?

I cannot seem to go back further than this at the moment.
Any suggestions

Jason

Monday, July 13, 2009

Family connection to Redvers line (related to Courtenay line)

Submitted on Monday, June 29, 2009 at 18:19:34
fname: damien
lname: watts
address1:
address2:
city: plymouth
state: devon
country: uk
zip:
damienwatts@hotmail.co.uk

ancestor: Redvers

comments: I believe I am related to Henry Buller directly on my Grandfathers side.

I am doing a family tree acestry search and needed your opinion.
I have a link under 'Watts Phillips' family tree.
Getting nowhere but 'missing links' in historical records.

Hope you can help as my Grandfather Ivor is being given dimentia drugs in Cornwall but would like to 'bind' a Redvers family tree with a Golden Leopard on it for a 'pressie' and sign of my love.

Damien

Catherine Courtney m. Thomas Frazer in USA circa 1890

Submitted on Saturday, June 20, 2009 at 23:53:06
fname: Joan
lname: Cavanagh
state: New York
country: USA
zip: 14616

Joanagnes80@aol.com

comments: My late mother in law, Catherine Frazer Cavanagh's mother was Catherine Courtney. She married Thomas Frazer here about 1890. He arrived about 1885. I don't know if they were acquainted there or not. I think he came from Lurgan, and there were Tippings in his family. Would appreciate any info, please. Thanks much.

Courtney of Ilfracombe Devon England

Submitted on Sunday, June 28, 2009 at 03:01:17
fname: Jason
lname: Courtney
drjasoncourtney@hotmail.com

ancestor: Courtney of Ilfracombe Devon England

comments: John Courtney born 1681 Ilfracombe Devon was married to Elizabeth Verchild born 1691 also of Ilfracombe Devon.
The IGI says that he was born in 1681 and she in 1691.
But there is another enry that says that John Courtney and Elizabeth Verchild married in 1680?
Does anybody have any information about this family line?

John's son was also called John Courtney born 1713 married Mary Williams born 1717 both from Ilfracombe.
His son was William Courtney born 1739 married Thomasine Knill born 1743 also from Ilfracombe
His son was James Courtney born 1778 married Anne Cotton born 1778 he was from Ilfracombe she was from Trenance Cornwall
His son William Rice Courtney born 1815 married Jane Brimacombe born 1816/7 he was from Bristol she was from St Anthony Cornwall
His son Thomas Henry Cotton Courtney born 1855 Portsmouth married Isabella Anna Hayter born 1855
His son Thomas William Rice Courtney born 1878 Great Wishford Wiltshire married Roseina Donnelly born approx 1895 Limavaddy Ireland.
His son was Michael Donnelly born 1922
He is my father
Thanks

Monday, June 22, 2009

Catherine Courtney m. Thomas Frazer circa 1890.

fname: Joan
lname: Cavanagh
state: New York
country: USA
zip:
e_mail: Joanagnes80@aol.com

comments: My late mother in law, Catherine Frazer Cavanagh's mother was Catherine Courtney. She married Thomas Frazer here about 1890. He arrived about 1885. I don't know if they were acquainted there or not. I think he came from Lurgan, and there were Tippings in his family. Would appreciate any info, please. Thanks much.

Saturday, June 20, 2009

Lewis Courtney d. at Aghadalgon, Ireland on the 1st Sept 1889

fname: Carol
lname: Appleyard
address1:
city: Hartlepool
country: England

e_mail: theappleorchard@ntlworld.com

ancestor: Lewis Courtney
comments: My grandmother was Ann Jane Heatley nee Courtney born 1909 in Aghadalgon, Glenavy, Co Antrim, N.Ireland she died 2004, her father was Solomon Courtney 1867-1948, and his father was called Lewis Courtney who died at Aghadalgon on the 1st Sept 1889. He build the house and I think bought the farmland, still owned and farmed by the family called "Rivervale" on Chapel Hill in Glenavy. I know very little about Lewis, I think he was born c1845 but not sure where and was married to Elizabeth Kane. His will states his effects to be worth 121 and the farm was left to my greatgrandfather Solomon also known as Sammy.
I would love to know more of his origins or from anyone connected to this branch of the Courtney family
Carol

Martin Van Buren Courtney circa 1930

fname: Robert
lname: Courtney
state: Indiana
country: USA

e_mail: doctorbkcourtney@gmail.com

ancestor: Martin Van Buren Courtney
comments: I am seeking information on Martin Van Buren Courtney, my grandfather. Known to have died in 1930's in West Virginia, near Belington. Married Emma Canfield, had 2 boys (Earl, Arthur) and 3 girls (Cloris, Hallie, Grace). I do not know Martin's parents or siblings or what link he attaches to.

Sunday, February 22, 2009

Jonathan C Courtney 1768 - 1852

Submitted by Thomas McGeary on Sunday, February 22, 2009 at 04:44:56
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fname: Thomas
lname: McGeary
city: Aiken
state: SC
country: USA
zip: 29801
e_mail: mcgreary@bellsouth.net

ancestor: Jonathan C Courtney 1768 - 1852

comments: Particulary interested in where "John Parum Courtney" (1795 - 1856)
son of Jonathan C Courtney, is buried. I was told Shiloh Baptist Church yard but that is his son James Parum Courtney (09 Sep 1821 - 29 Sep 1894)who is buried there.

Saturday, February 14, 2009

Courtenay Thomas and Elizabeth Wiseman, Brighton, Sussex, England

Submitted by JH on Saturday, February 07, 2009 at 17:59:25
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fname: J
lname: H
e_mail: studiollij@aol.com
ancestor: Courtenay Thomas and Elizabeth Wiseman, Brighton, Sussex, England
comments: Thomas Courtenay died 1845. He was a Boat Officer and had a son Thomas, born 1814 in Brighton.

Friday, January 30, 2009

RE: Sir William Courtenay, 8th Earl of Devon, 1762-1785

fname: Sarah
lname: More
address1:
city:
state:
country: USA
zip:
e_mail: hankmonkhistorycenter@yahoo.com
ancestor: RE: Sir William Courtenay, 8th Earl of Devon, 1762-1785
comments: Dear Herman Andrew Sullivan,

Your family tradition is interesting because fellow Courtenay Society Member Carolyn Grant tells us that her ancestor, Mary Anne Vane Courtenay (born 1785,) was the daughter of the 2nd Viscount and a Miss Vane. She was sailing to Quebec to marry a British Army officer when she was shipwrecked off the coast of Labrador. She later married there. Carolyn' s email is CRGrant@shaw.ca.

I don t know if my ancestor comes from a similar background. As our family tradition goes, my ancestor, Elizabeth Smith, was born in Edenbush, Scotland in 1805, the daughter of an Earl and a lady-in-waiting to the Queen of England before her marriage to Robert More of Glasgow. She was also said to have had a brother, William, who immigrated to the States, ran into trouble with the law, and was exiled.

I believe the tradition may be referring to Elizabeth s mother, Jean Courtenay, who married Thomas Smith. Their first child, Elizabeth, was born in 1805 in Lanarkshire, Scotland. Traditional Scottish naming patterns say the first daughter is named after the mother s mother, presumably Elizabeth Courtenay, who may have been the daughter of an Earl. Several of the 2nd Viscount s sisters and nieces were ladies-in-waiting to the Queen or Princesses. The 3rd Viscount, also known as the 9th Earl, was named William, lived in New York City until he was imprisoned during the War of 1812, and was exiled to France. His sister, Elizabeth, who married Lord Somerset, eloped in Edinburgh, Scotland as did her parents, the 2nd Viscount and Viscountess. Perhaps Edenbush is a misspelling for Edinburgh?

I have no information about Jean Courtenay, when she was born, or who her parents were. I m guessing she was born around 1785. I also know nothing about Thomas Smith but did find a record stating that a T. Smith, esq. was the last surviving trustee of the 9th Earl. This may be referring to Thomas Assheton Smith, esquire, whose grandfather was Chancellor of the Exchequer under Queen Mary.

There was also a William Henry Courtenay born around 1788 of whom Prince William Henry later William IV acknowledged paternity. This was unusual and means the mother must have been a very powerful woman. William Henry Courtenay drowned while serving in the Royal Navy. I don t know if he and Jean were related.

William IV s older brother, George IV, was secretly married in 1785 to Maria Anne Smythe, widow of Mr. Fitzherbert. Their younger brother was also secretly married. Several Courtenay ladies were the mistresses of the Royal Princes in earlier generations because the Courtenays were closely related to the British and French Royal Families as well as the Emperors of Constantinople.

Although the 2nd Viscount did have a daughter, Lady Elizabeth Somerset, there was an Elizabeth Courtenay who was a sister of the 10th Earl. Her father, a cousin of the 2nd Viscount, was Chaplain to the Royal Family. His daughter, Elizabeth, never married. Her brother succeeded to the title upon the death of the 9th Earl in 1835.

My ancestor, Elizabeth Smith, her husband and children sailed for Canada in 1831, one month before William IV was crowned. They were sort of a mysterious couple who always seemed to be running from something. What that was, though, I have no idea and probably will never know.

P.S. Just as a matter of form, the 2nd Viscount Courtenay was never known as the 8th Earl as the title was granted retroactively after the death of his son, the 9th Earl.

Friday, January 23, 2009

Egelina (AKA Evelina) de Courtenay, a supposed daughter of Hugh de Courtenay, 3d Baron of Okehampton (died by 5 Mar 1292)

An Egelina de Courtenay, a supposed daughter of Hugh de Courtenay, 3d Baron of Okehampton (died by 5 Mar 1292) and Alianora le Despenser, has been said to be the wife of Robert, Lord Scales (who died 20 Mar 1324/25). Positive evidence for this, however, appears so far lacking, and I hope that researchers here may be able to assist.

Egelina — in some sources called Evelina — is not to be confused with Aveline de Courtenay, a known daughter of Hugh and Alianora, who before 6 Nov 1311 married John, Lord Giffard of Brim(p)sfield, Gloucestershire, and who died as Giffard’s widow 27 Apr 1327.
According to Victoria County History (Herts, IV, 28) Robert, Lord Scales settles certain estates on his wife Egelina. Sources cited are Inq. a.q.d. file 116, no. 15, and Feudal Aids II, 439, but Egelina’s parentage or ‘surname’ not given. Complete Peerage (new ed.) XI, 501, queries the evidence for this marriage, citing without comment a note by Ethel Stokes claiming as authority "an account of the Courtenay family thought to have been compiled in the time of Edward III by a monk of Ford (Pole M., no. 3487, Exeter Transcript)".

I would be extremely grateful for any further information regarding Egelina/Evelina, the wife of Robert, Lord Scales — whether by closer reference to the Inq. a.q.d. or the Feudal Aids materials, or to the supposed record of the Courtenay family associated with Ford Abbey, or to any other source.

Failing this, I should particularly appreciate any word regarding the location of the Ethel Stokes comment, or indeed the nature and present whereabouts of the Courtenay/Pole manuscript or the Exeter transcription of it to which Stokes referred.

Many thanks.

Dr Cristopher Nash, University of Warwick

c@windsong.org.uk