Query 220: GEORGE ROGERS, son of Thomas ROGERS and Catherine daughter of Sir Wm. Courtenay and widow of Sir Thos Pomeroy.
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 8:35 AM
fname=ELIZABETHlname=Howard
address1=Lion House
address2=140 Lynn Road
city=Downham Market
state=Norfolk United Kingdom
zip=PE 38 9 QF
lionhouse@supanet.com
ancestor=GEORGE ROGERS
comments=son of Thomas ROGERS and Catherine dau of Sir Wm Courtenay and
widow of Sir Thos Pomeroy. When and where were Thomas and Catherine
married ? When and where was George their son born ? Did he have
brothers Nicholas and Thomas ( John) ? When and where were they born ? All
in the 1450 - 1475 period. Any help on references to the above will be
gratefully received.
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Sorry for the delay. I have been very busy with family activities lately. It is nearing the end of soccer season here, Cameron (our middle son) is having a birthday party sleepover, and fall is definetly upon us.
I believe our connection is through Thomas Rogers and Katherine de Courtenay. I will put what I have of a few generations of Katherine's ancestors down below.
I would love to have you point out any mistakes or common ancestors.
Hope to hear back soon. cheers for now,
Ron in quiet little North Yarmouth
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Hello Ron,
By all means, send your report attached to (or part of) an e-mail message. I will take a look at it and see what I have. I have records on several American lines. The complete database is available to Courtenay Society members as a Courtenay Society publication.
Best regards, S. Courtenay
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From: Ron Graham
Date: Saturday, October 09, 1999 9:54 PM
Subject: Courtney question
[S. Courtenay],
Hello. My name is Ron Graham. And I have been searching for some of my Courtenay ancestors for a little bit now.
I recently got a letter from the Courtenay Society and your name and e-mail were listed.
I was wondering if I might send over a report with what Courtenays I have, so you might take a look at them.
It would be wonderful if we found a common ancestors, but regardless I was hoping you might give it a quick check to see if it has any obvious mistakes or omissions.
would love to hear back, Ron [The lines attached below were provided by Ron]
Ancestors of Katherine De CourtneyGeneration No. 11. Katherine De Courtney, born 1440 in Powderham Castle, Devonshire, England; died Bef. January 12, 1514/15 in Shillingford, Devonshire, England. She was the daughter of 2. Philip Courtenay and 3. Elizabeth Hungerford. She married (1) Thomas Rogers Sergeant-at-Law February 1482/83 in Branford, England. He was born 1435 in England, and died 1489 in Bradford-on-Avon, Wilts Cty. He was the son of Thomas Rogers Gent. and Avice (Amy) Stourton.Generation No. 22. Philip Courtenay, born Abt. 1404 in Powderham Castle, Devonshire, England; died December 16, 1463 in England. He was the son of 4. John Courtenay and 5. Joan Champernoun. He married 3. Elizabeth Hungerford in Powderham Castle, Devonshire, England.3. Elizabeth Hungerford, born Abt. 1400 in Of, Hungerford, Somersetshire, England; died December 14, 1476. She was the daughter of 6. Lord Hungerford Walter.
Children of Philip Courtenay and Elizabeth Hungerford are:
1 i. Katherine De Courtney, born 1440 in Powderham Castle, Devonshire, England; died Bef. January 12, 1514/15 in Shillingford, Devonshire, England; married Thomas Rogers Sergeant-at-Law February 1482/83 in Branford, England.
ii. Anne COURTENAY, born Abt. 1426 in Of, Powderham, Devonshire, England; married (1) Thomas GRENFIELD September 07, 1447 in License; married (2) Thomas GRANVILLE September 07, 1447.
iii. William COURTENAY, born Abt. 1428 in Of Powderham Castle, Powderham, Devonshire, England; died September 1485; married Margaret BONVILLE Abt. 1450 in Of, Chewton, Somersetshire, England.
iv. Elizabeth COURTENAY, born Abt. 1430 in Of, Powderham, Devonshire, England; died Abt. 1493; married (1) Thomas MALLET; married (2) James LUTTERELL January 13, 1450/51 in Lic; married (3) Humphrey Touchet De AUDLEY Abt. 1462 in Of, , Staffordshire, England; married (4) Robert CARY Abt. 1474.
v. Philip COURTENAY, born Abt. 1432 in Of, Powderham, Devonshire, England; died 1489; married Elizabeth Mrs. HYNDESTON Abt. 1454.
vi. Peter COURTENAY, born Abt. 1434 in Of, Powderham, Devonshire, England; died September 22, 1492.
vii. Catherine Courtenay, born Abt. 1438 in Of, Powderham, Devonshire, England; died January 12, 1514/15 in , Shillingford, Devonshire, England; married (1) Saint Clair POMEROY; married (2) William Huddesfield Abt. 1477 in Of, Powderham, Devonshire, England; married (3) Thomas (John) ROGERS February 1482/83; born Abt. 1435 in Of, Bradford, Wiltshire, England; died 1489.
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NOTE: Catherine Courtenay (circa 1440-1513) was the GRAND-DAUGHTER of Philip Courtenay and Elizabeth Hungerford. Her PARENTS were William Courtenay and Margaret Bonville.
She married three times and was widowed twice, Thomas Rogers was her first husband..
Her second husband was Sir St.Clare Pomeroy Kt., and her third Sir William Huddesfield, Attorney-General to King Edward IV.
She is buried in a fine tomb with her third husband in Shillingford St. George Church, near Exeter, Devon.
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viii. Walter COURTENAY, born Abt. 1438 in Of, Powderham, Devonshire, England; died November 07, 1505; married Alice KILRINGTON Abt. 1488.
ix. Edmund COURTENAY, born Abt. 1442 in Of, Powderham, Devonshire, England; died February 04, 1495/96; married Jane DEVIOKE.
x. Philippa COURTENAY, born Abt. 1442 in Of, Powderham, Devonshire, England; married Thomas FULFORD Abt. 1466.
xi. Humphrey COURTENAY, born Abt. 1444 in Of, Powderham, Devonshire, England; died April 23, 1496; married Elizabeth De La POMEROY.
xii. John COURTENAY, born Abt. 1446 in Of, Powderham, Devonshire, England.
Generation No. 34. John Courtenay, born Abt. 1384 in Of, Powderham, Devonshire, England; died Bef. July 29, 1406 in vp. He was the son of 8. Philip De Courtney and 9. Ann Margaret Wake. He married 5. Joan Champernoun.5. Joan Champernoun She was the daughter of 10. Alexander Champernoun.
Child of John Courtenay and Joan Champernoun is:
Children of John Courtenay and Joan Champernon are:2 i. Philip Courtenay, born Abt. 1404 in Powderham Castle, Devonshire, England; died December 16, 1463 in England; married Elizabeth Hungerford in Powderham Castle, Devonshire, England.
6. Lord Hungerford Walteri. Humphrey COURTENAY, born Abt. 1405 in Of, Powderham, Devonshire, England; died in Sp; married (1) Joanna CHAMOND; married (2) Johanna CHAMOND Abt. 1431.
Child of Lord Hungerford Walter is:
3 i. Elizabeth Hungerford, born Abt. 1400 in Of, Hungerford, Somersetshire, England; died December 14, 1476; married (1) Philip Courtenay in Powderham Castle, Devonshire, England; married (2) William COURTNEY Abt. 1449.
Generation No. 48. Philip De Courtney, born Abt. 1340 in Exeter, Devonshire, England; died July 29, 1406 in Exeter, Devonshire, England. He was the son of 16. Hugh De Courtenay and 17. Margaret de BOHUN. He married 9. Ann Margaret Wake Abt. 1380.9. Ann Margaret Wake, born Abt. 1360 in Of, Blisworth, Northamptonshire, England; died 1390. She was the daughter of 18. Thomas WAKE and 19. Alice Patteshull.
Children of Philip De Courtney and Ann Wake are:
10. Alexander Champernouni. Richard de Courtney, Lord Bishop of Norwich
ii. Agnes COURTENAY, born Abt. 1380 in Of, Powderham, Devonshire, England; died January 10, 1429/30; married (1) Otho (Otis) CHAMPERNON; married (2) SEYNTELERE.
iii. Richard COURTENAY, born 1382 in Of, Powderham, Devonshire, England; died 1415 in SP.
4 iv. John Courtenay, born Abt. 1384 in Of, Powderham, Devonshire, England; died Bef. July 29, 1406 in vp; married (1) Joan Champernoun; married (2) Joan Champernon Abt. 1403.
v. William COURTENAY, born Abt. 1386 in Of, Powderham, Devonshire, England; died 1419 in SP.
vi. Margaret COURTENAY, born Abt. 1390 in Of, Powderham, Devonshire, England; married (1) John HIGGINS; married (2) John HELE; married (3) Robert CARY Abt. 1395 in Of Holway, Devonshire, Engl; married (4) Robert (Carew) CAREY Abt. 1414.
Child of Alexander Champernoun is:
5 i. Joan Champernoun, married John Courtenay.
Generation No. 516. Hugh De Courtenay, born July 12, 1303 in Of, Okehampton, Devonshire, England; died May 02, 1377 in , Exeter, Devonshire, England. He was the son of Hugh De Courtenay and Agnes Saint John. He married 17. Margaret de BOHUN August 11, 1325.17. Margaret de BOHUN, born April 03, 1311 in Of, Caldecote, Northamptonshire, England; died in , Exeter, Devonshire, England. She was the daughter of Humphrey De Bohun VIII and Elizabeth Princess Of ENGLAND.
Children of Hugh De Courtenay and Margaret BOHUN are:
18. Thomas WAKE, born Abt. 1319 in Of, Blisworth, Northamptonshire, England; died 1383. He was the son of Thomas WAKE and Elizabeth CRANSLEY. He married 19. Alice Patteshull Bef. June 14, 1354.i. William COURTENAY, born in Of, Exeter, Devonshire, England; died July 31, 1396 in Unmarried.
ii. Margaret COURTENAY, born Abt. 1326 in Of, Exeter, Devonshire, England; died August 02, 1385; married (1) Theobald De GRANVILLE; married (2) John De COBHAM in Of, Cobham, Kent, England.
iii. Hugh COURTENAY, born March 22, 1326/27 in Of, Exeter, Devonshire, England; died Bef. September 02, 1349 in VP; married (1) Elizabeth De COURTENAY Bef. September 1341; married (2) Elizabeth De VERE Bef. September 1341.
iv. Edward COURTENAY, born Abt. 1329 in Of, Haccombe, Devonshire, England; died in Vp; married Emmeline DAWNAY Abt. 1356.
v. Thomas COURTENAY, born Abt. 1331 in Of, Exeter, Devonshire, England; died 1381 in Sp; married Mrs Thomas COURTENAY.
vi. Elizabeth COURTENAY, born Abt. 1333 in Of, Exeter, Devonshire, England; died August 07, 1395; married (1) John De VERE; married (2) Andrew LUTTERELL 1359.
vii. Catherine COURTENAY, born Abt. 1335 in Of, Exeter, Devonshire, England; died December 31, 1399; married (1) Thomas (Engain) ENGHAIN; married (2) William HARRINGTON; married (3) William MOHUN; married (4) Thomas ENGAIN.
viii. Joan COURTENAY, born Abt. 1337 in Of, Exeter, Devonshire, England; married John CHIVERTON.
ix. Matilda COURTENAY, born Abt. 1339 in Of, Exeter, Devonshire, England; died in Sp.
8 x. Philip De Courtney, born Abt. 1340 in Exeter, Devonshire, England; died July 29, 1406 in Exeter, Devonshire, England; married Ann Margaret Wake Abt. 1380.
xi. Peter COURTENAY, born Abt. 1342 in Of, Exeter, Devonshire, England; died February 02, 1404/05; married Margaret CLYVEDON.
xii. Eleanor COURTENAY, born Abt. 1344 in Of, Exeter, Devonshire, England; married Henry De GREY.
xiii. John COURTENAY, born Abt. 1346 in Of, Exeter, Devonshire, England; died in sp.
xiv. Guenora COURTENAY, born Abt. 1348 in Of, Exeter, Devonshire, England.
xv. Anne COURTENAY, born Abt. 1351 in Of, Exeter, Devonshire, England; died in Unmarried.
xvi. Isabel COURTENAY, born Abt. 1353 in Of, Exeter, Devonshire, England.
xvii. Humphrey COURTENAY, born Abt. 1355 in Of, Exeter, Devonshire, England; died in sp.
xviii. Philippa COURTENAY, born Abt. 1357 in Of, Exeter, Devonshire, England.
19. Alice Patteshull, born Abt. 1330 in Of Patteshull, Nrthmp, England; died August 10, 1398. She was the daughter of John (Pateshull) PATSHULL and Mabilia De GRANDISON.
Children of Thomas WAKE and Alice Patteshull are:
i. John WAKE, born Abt. 1340 in Of Blisworth, Nrthmp, England.
ii. John WAKE, born Abt. 1355 in.
iii. Thomas WAKE, born Abt. 1356 in Of Blisworth, Northampton, England; died August 14, 1383; married Maude PIGOT Bef. July 25, 1372 in Carding, Bedfordshire, England.
iv. Maude WAKE, born Abt. 1357 in Of Bliswoth, Nrthmp, England; died Aft. 1398.
v. Blanche WAKE, born Abt. 1358 in Of Bliswoth, Nrthmp, England; died Aft. 1398.
vi. Sibil WAKE, born Abt. 1359 in Of Bliswoth, Nrthmp, England; died Aft. 1398.
vii. John WAKE, born Abt. 1361 in Of Belton, Isle Of Axholme, , England.
9 viii. Ann Margaret Wake, born Abt. 1360 in Of, Blisworth, Northamptonshire, England; died 1390; married Philip De Courtney Abt. 1380.
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